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Fight Night · Episode #2551

Daniel Kokotajlo

· 2 books on the card

AI forecaster Daniel Kokotajlo on AI 2027, AI agents that cheat on evaluations, and where superintelligence could leave humans.

Books mentioned (the card)

  1. Main Event

    Red corner · The book

    My Big TOE

    Thomas Campbell

    Featherweight 2× all-time

    Blue corner · Mentioned by

    Joe Rogan (host)

    ⏱ Timestamp 00:17:10

    Joe asks whether Kokotajlo knows Tom Campbell, who "wrote a book called... My Big TOE", and brings up remote viewing.

    Source: Transcript (podscripts.co)

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  2. Co-Main Event

    Red corner · The book

    Count Down

    Shanna H. Swan, Stacey Colino

    Lightweight 2× all-time

    Blue corner · Mentioned by

    Joe Rogan (host)

    ⏱ Timestamp 01:52:53

    Joe cites Dr. Shanna Swan's book on plummeting sperm counts and endocrine disruption while discussing falling birth rates.

    Source: Transcript (podscripts.co)

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